"Marked" "Ghost" Police Car

"LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com" (limitedtimeonly) 04/30/2018 at 15:08 • Filed to: Police

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What does Oppo think of the “marked” state trooper car with markings so hard to read that they really might as well not be there? I figure it is no different than an unmarked car, but I assume there is some legality to which they are meeting the letter of the law, while destroying the spirit.

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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 15:13

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Sort of malicious compliance. You want markings? fine, you’ve got markings.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 15:16

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That’s not in a fight against drunk driving... That’s for revenue generation via tickets.

“To Profit and Steal”

rillweid - Now with more TRD and less TDI > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 15:16

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SHP already runs unmarked cars in NC so unless they made a new law banning this I don’t see the point.

LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > rillweid - Now with more TRD and less TDI 04/30/2018 at 15:19

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Exactly. There must be some obscure law which requires a marked car to be enforced, and this is how they meet that while being effectively unmarked. Maybe I’m being too cynical, and it’s just for the “cool” factor?

Chariotoflove > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 15:21

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Marked cars serve the purpose of getting people to obey the laws. No one (almost) does anything stupid or speeds when they see a marked car. The only purpose for having these is to catch people. A police force seeking as close to perfect compliance as possible would’ve no need of unmarked or stealth marked traffic enforcement cars.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 15:21

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If it’s used for traffic enforcement, it’s BS. Or at least, it’s BS while the speed limits and excessive stop sign use aren’t based on reality.

As it is, it’s a cash grab.

12and35 > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 15:23

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Wake County has (maybe, I haven’t been home for 7 months) a Corvette that is impossible to tell it’s a police car. I used to see it on I40 all the time.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 15:26

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This is starting to be really common. I was in WA the other day and saw a sheriff with the same thing going on.

Milky > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 15:27

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Yes on Chargers because it looks siiiiccckkk.

AestheticsInMotion > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/30/2018 at 15:33

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Yep, my city has had these for at least a few years. A decent amount of them too, unfortunately

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 15:37

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As I’ve stated about unmarked cars, it’s simply to observe and collect, not serve and protect.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > AestheticsInMotion 04/30/2018 at 15:38

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Yeah it’s BS. Hopefully we don’t encounter any on our drive... I’m really looking forward to it.

Wacko > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 15:39

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here in quebec

LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 04/30/2018 at 15:40

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I suspected that this had been discussed previously. Just provoked by the article.

Spanfeller is a twat > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 15:40

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I mean, it’s tax payer money, I think clearly marked patrol cars would be great to scare criminals from actually doing crimes, or people who would be speeding from speeding at all just because of its presence so I’d rather have them marked... Not that we have unmarked cruisers here in Mexico City at least.

LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > Milky 04/30/2018 at 15:41

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In the article it seems as if this is a reward for the troopers who get to drive them, so maybe it all comes down to style.

Future next gen S2000 owner > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 15:43

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Unmarked cars should not be allowed to pull over or ticket anyone. They should only be used for undercover work, where, ya know, being indistinguishable from other cars is useful. Unmarked cars patrolling only serve the purpose of collecting revenue.

If it fails the SCCA autocross rules for lettering, it is unmarked. - Lettering must be a clearly contrasting color, and large enough to be easily read from a distance.

Just my 2 cents.

LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > Future next gen S2000 owner 04/30/2018 at 15:44

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All of life should be measured against autocross rules.

diplodicus > Milky 04/30/2018 at 15:46

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Did you know there are unmarked Durango cops in MI? Not sure if Macomb/Oakland/Wayne have them or not. But I saw one in St.Clair Co a few weeks ago. Not sure if it was local, county, or state but I assume if one has them the others do as well.

Milky > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 15:50

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Yea cops are people too and murdered out look is everywhere (read: played out). Some how I’m only okay with it on police chargers.

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 15:50

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PA has switched its marked state trooper cars from white with black/gold lettering to gray/brown and gray markings. Though not technically ghost graphics, it’s close.

Maryland has been using ghost graphics on its state trooper cars for a few years now. I’d imagine that highway cars are all going to be like this in a few years, while local cars will remain obviously marked as those are more of a deterrent.

Milky > diplodicus 04/30/2018 at 15:52

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Silver ones? I think I’ve seen them, still have a “X” on the plate.

They’re not as easy to spot as Explorers though.

AestheticsInMotion > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/30/2018 at 15:57

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Glad you’re coming! What do you plan on bringing?

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > AestheticsInMotion 04/30/2018 at 15:58

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Fiesta ST for sure.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 16:04

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OPD has a few black Caprices like this, I think it looks awesome if nothing else.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > Milky 04/30/2018 at 16:09

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As long as they put a dark tint on the full windshield like the gangsta types in my neighborhood...

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 16:17

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Honestly, we should paint all police cars like the Brits do:

If I need assistance I should be able to quickly identify and flag down an officer. Likewise, I should be able to see the car in general when they’re pulled over/blocking lanes, for both their safety and mine. Final point, it’s a lot harder for assholes to imitate a police officer with a loud paint job than it is to stick a few strobes in the grille of your black Charger.

Traffic cops aren’t secret agents, they don’t need stealth vehicles.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 04/30/2018 at 16:26

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I’m 100% in agreement.

The problem with the police in the US is that they are obsessed with power tripping, not with helping people. These cars are a reflection of this fact. Their cars, unless used exclusively for investigation, should always be extremely visible and very difficult to mimic (and something that would attract the attention of the actual police if they have marked their car in this manner). This is a public safety issue all around and there are zero legitimate reasons for police cars that are unmarked or ghost marked to be used for law enforcement.

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 16:50

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I hate any police car that’s trying to look intimidating or cool in any way. If you want an unmarked car for undercover work, that’s fine, you can have those. But patrol cars should be brightly marked and friendly looking...if I just got mugged and I see a blacked out Charger with no (or hard to read) markings, I’m not going to approach that shit.

shop-teacher > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 17:04

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It pisses me off. My local county Sheriff runs dark blue cars with medium blue lettering. A town I drive through everyday just bought a fleet of new black Explorers and Tahoes with flat black lettering. It’s so clearly done just to generate revenue from chicken-shit tickets.

shop-teacher > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind 04/30/2018 at 17:08

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A town I drive through everyday just bought a fleet of black Tahoes and Explorers with flat black lettering.

StudyStudyStudy > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 17:20

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In our state:

“It is unlawful for any public officer having charge of any vehicle owned or controlled by any county, city, town, or public body in this state other than the state of Washington and used in public business to operate the same upon the public highways of this state unless and until there shall be displayed upon such automobile or other motor vehicle in letters of contrasting color not less than one and one-quarter inches in height in a conspicuous place on the right and left sides thereof, the name of such county, city, town, or other public body, together with the name of the department or office upon the business of which the said vehicle is used. This section shall not apply to vehicles of a sheriff’s office, local police department, or any vehicles used by local peace officers under public authority for special undercover or confidential investigative purposes”

Apparently you can make some of them real uncomfortable by casually pointing it out. “Oh I didn’t notice the markings, they blend in so well officer.” That, which they have to record for a ticket issue raises lots of questions and concerns: did the person speed because they thought they were being tailgated, did the person take a long time to pull over, because they thought it was an imposter, etc.

I think the university police employed that tactic, and they had to undo their cars because people didn’t recognize them as cop cars. Like when they were barricading parking lots on game days, people thought they were advertisements for chargers and would attempt to drive around them.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 17:27

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Exactly.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 04/30/2018 at 19:31

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Only the bad guys should need to be sneaky.

ranwhenparked > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 19:55

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There’s 3 very small towns near me that together issue 1/3 of all speeding tickets in the state, they use those stealth cars for that purpose. As if the dark grey Tahoe with push bars, police lights, and steel wheels sitting on the side of the road facing toward traffic is completely inconspicuous.

The Compromiser > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com 04/30/2018 at 22:24

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W have them in Ontario, but they reflect like normal reflective stickers when lights hit them. Had them for years.

jkm7680 > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 05/06/2018 at 11:15

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That would look super retarded.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > jkm7680 05/06/2018 at 11:22

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Thank you for your considered adult comment

jkm7680 > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 05/06/2018 at 12:00

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You are very welcome! <3